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Daily Art in 5 Minutes with Kim DeShazo - Joleen's Happy Time Craftcast 33

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Craftonians! ! Welcome back to the Happy Time Craftcast, where creativity, connection, and a little bit of chaos come together in the best possible way. I’m your host, Joleen, and today’s episode is extra special because I get to chat with one of my absolute favorite people in the art journaling world—Kim DeShazo from The Happy Kim Art!

🌟 Meet the Fabulous Kim DeShazo

Kim is an art journaler, mixed media lover, and creative cheerleader who believes everyone has an artist inside them—even if you don’t think so. She’s the genius behind the Five-Minute Morning practice, where she shows you how just a few minutes of art a day can transform not only your journal pages but also your mood and mindset.

She’s all about helping us midlife creatives reconnect with our artistic spark while making the most of the here and now—with joy, color, and a little glue on our fingers.

And let me just say—her weekly “Five Happy Things” newsletter is like a little gift in your inbox. You’re going to love her as much as I do.

🌟 Follow Kim on Social:

Want to hang out with Kim online? You should!

  • Website & Newsletter: The Happy Kim
  • TikTok & Instagram: @TheHappyKim

🌟 What We Chatted About:

  • 2:00 - Kim’s Creative Journey
  • 5:00 - Connecting Through Art
  • 7:20 - The Five-Minute Morning Magic
  • 10:30 - Organizing Your Supplies (Without Stress)
  • 14:00 - What’s Lighting Kim Up Right Now
  • 20:00 - The Hunt for the Perfect White Pen
  • 33:00 - Treasures in Trash
  • 40:59 - What’s Happening at Big Raven Farm
  • 47:30 - My New Favorite Toy
  • 54:00 - The Lightning Round

🌟 Favorite Moments:

  • “Five minutes a day is enough to change everything. Just start—no plan, no pressure.” – Kim DeShazo
  • “There’s no wrong way to art journal—just use what you have and let it flow.” – Kim DeShazo
  • “Good boxes are treasures, don’t let anyone tell you otherwise.” – Joleen Emery

🌟 Links & Goodies You’ll Love:

  • Kim’s Weekly Newsletter
  • Art Supplies Mentioned:
    • Ranger Ink Delusions Journal
    • Neo Color II Water Soluble Crayons
    • Dina Wakley Scribble Sticks
    • White India Ink for mark making
    • DIY Stencils from Tyvek Envelopes (check your local post office!)
  • Big Raven Farm Retreats

What’s Next?

I’m beyond thrilled for next week’s episode because Royce Hunt of Roycycled Papers is joining me! If you love upcycling, junk journaling, and thrifting magic, you are going to LOVE Royce. Mark your calendar for the 18th!

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Joleen:

Well, hello everyone. Welcome to Jolene. Happy Time. joining me from wherever you are. And I'd like to start today of them out, because the Christmas shopping stress that I in a box, and I'm talking to you Jack. I don't know if they listen to this, but if anyone else is children are grown ups, and I want to be able to provide them list yet, so I thought I would just publicly shame him and see today. So anyway, today's guest, oh, my goodness, I know I say it time craft cast. So if you are a Tiktok person like me, hopefully of connecting with your art and making time for it every single helping others find their artistic Spark, even if they in midlife, and helping them to rekindle their creativity and community and economic development, and so she journaling and mixed media can bring us all together. She has called Five happy things. It's wonderful. I love her on Tiktok, please, welcome Kim to the happy time craftcast. Thank you so

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

I feel the same way about you and so interesting, the time that we live in, where we can connect we know people in real life, Right

Joleen:

exactly. And don't you think too that I feel like on, I journaling and like mixed media, creative book folks, I kind of

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

Do you feel that way? I do. I do feel more gain more followers, and all of that better. I feel like rather connect with a smaller group of people, able to get to followers.

Joleen:

So I think one of the things that I feel probably the personally, and I know some folks kind of talk about, like, like friends in real life. And yeah, I'm so and like best, best opportunity to have without it. Agreed,

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

agreed. It's it's very interesting. I it got lost, and she we've just kind of been messaging back and been with her mother. And so it just, you know, it's like, you know, I was able to ask her about her mother, and it just,

Joleen:

Yeah, and I mean, I love it. I never, ever thought the would fill up my cup like the way that it has. And I'm so we connect, and connection is like a big part of what you talk

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

just think connecting with people is hearts and the feelings that we have and I mean, I think mental connect with myself and connect with other things that have using, right? And love that aspect of it, of that see your art or what you've created, and they can connect

Joleen:

So I think that you have done such a great job of about that? Because I shared with you earlier, and you all and she flew to Minnesota from New York, and she was at the says to me, she says, I have really been inspired by Kim, you morning in my art journal. And I was like, Oh my God, I know her. you like, you sparked a little movement here. So tell us what

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

I am a big like, I'm not a morning entire life to be a morning person, but I'm, I'm a night routine and morning routine person. And so I get up and I do cup of coffee, because I'm a coffee drinker, and I sit down minutes every morning in an art journal, just doing something. what I've started doing, it's been about a year and a half week, I have a finished art journal spread. So I'll show several journals for

Joleen:

those of you listening. She's picking up an art journal.

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

I picked up this art journal, sure, this for a while. So this is what I did this morning, leaves, and then today, I did the black background. So no just sit down and grab a tool, an art supply. I've got some new it's, it's so interesting to see what happens at the end of the Tiktok, and then, you know, I'll put together a video right there

Joleen:

Well, I think one of the things that I've heard you say and I would love to have a five minute morning, but my supplies, my inky bits are in this drawer, and my stencil. Are over here, I've heard you talk about how important access is, and even organizing and buying your arts and craft supplies is one hobby them. So can you speak to what you do with this at your out, then I feel like I have to clean it up. Like, just, just

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

It is, and it's a roadblock for me too. live, you can see that I live in a tiny I live in 500 square lived alone. I've raised kids, but I I kind of really started you know, just a plastic tote. And I had a lot of art supplies. this coat, and I would just pull it out whenever I wanted to what, I live here, I'm going to make a space. And so I have a it's beautiful because it helps me create every day, and that's you want to experiment with, and just having them accessible in or under bed storage is a good solution. Pull that out and sit it accessible where, when you're ready to create, you can just your bed, and it's right, or it's part of, least part of my

Joleen:

I think what I'm so the takeaway for me is, what I need whatever, but I don't need all of those, like I could make a like, like every day. I bet you feel this way too, like I want to be a creative explorer every single day. And when I can't get

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

the same way Jolene. So I think also, you know, I don't even think you need a with, say, water soluble pencils or crayons or something like you're, you know, it's just at in the evening with your kids, journal that I showed you, or your composition notebooks, too, anybody. I mean, I've seen solutions. Yes, these solutions notebook, grab your Kids old notebook for last year and take but, yeah, I think that. I think using a composition notebook, in Vietnam, composition notebooks are the best because paints, or watercolors, or anything like that, that will together. And so I

Joleen:

know that you have, I'm sorry for interrupting. I have that we devil and we like lots of different you know, it could making, all the things, all the things, all the things. So do for me. So what is your current favorite project, medium or

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

this week, it's been acrylic. I love that you say this week, yeah, yeah. And that's just because I've got some new acrylic colors. I just, know, so I'll, I'll order. I'll go pick up a new paint. But I am yeah, but I've recently kind of gotten into wash, so I've a series of art supplies and kind of going through the tell me why you need. And so I started, and I ordered the Hemi whatever, so I wasn't expecting, honestly, to like them. But I same thing with watercolor. I started with a cheap set of start collecting, yes, the more expensive products. And so I good daily water colors, or, you know, the the higher end things, expensive and so you're going to like it. But well, yeah,

Joleen:

that's kind of letting you up right now. Um, so what Woody's. Do you would you like to weigh in? She's Pro I can't creams, scribble sticks, thank you, which I think are similar at? Okay,

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

I'm, I'm gonna lean more with you see people work with them, I'm like, I like them. They're fat, Oh, are they? I think so. And so I thought I want those. And so,

Joleen:

right? And it's like 24 it's like a whole big thing.

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

They take up so much space. And for for the bang for the buck for me is the Neo color too. I have not because they look just like a Crayola crayon. Mm, hmm. You can started my collection with just like a really small set of

Joleen:

there. Yeah. So I really love the scribble sticks, them by soaking them in my water jar. Yes. And then they get from the jar, then I go to my substrate, but they have to be or watching right now have a solution, because I want to get They do take up a lot of space, but I like, I want them to work, them to do.

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

Well, you're used to working with. A different packaging and different branding. It's like but different.

Joleen:

Or maybe it's more like Ferrari Pinto, like, I'm not something is happening there, and I

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

like them, and I use them. I love the

Joleen:

Can we talk about white? Let's talk about gel pens, paint mean, I seriously must have invested $100 in different kinds

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

So I'm the same. I've got several I've

Joleen:

hoping you'd be like, Jolene, this is what you do. I

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

have several different types of white through them a lot. I never use a full one because they don't

Joleen:

I'll tell you what works. Tell me. Tell me,

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

India ink, white India ink and a

Joleen:

Wait, so I have to letter with a brush instead of

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

I do, I do at times

Joleen:

Interesting. Okay, so let's talk about this. So White like I won't have as much control. But for mark making, I

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

use it. I've used it in a lot of spotter, fine brush. And it takes forever. Yes, forever. But with it, you know.

Joleen:

But so do you follow Desiree hand lettering on tick pens, and she has the most beautiful lettering. And it's on it. And I like, I want to, like, will my hands to work the definitely been a roadblock, because I have bought so many lettering, and I feel like talking to them and buying the I haven't actually practiced.

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

It's practice, you know, right? Oh, morning mark making for you. Maybe you should spend five to

Joleen:

I think that is such a great idea. And in the comments, she knows we don't math like we just don't do it. But she also that we think are worth the investment. You go first, more

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

Okay, for sure.

Joleen:

Are we talking like a Daniel Smith

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

and I recently actually did a Tiktok collection, because when you buy those little tubes of watercolor is in them. Yes, you know, those don't seem like a lot, but when in your watercolor palette that lasts forever, like, right? investing in something like a higher end watercolor, it's

Joleen:

would say, for me, it's. Then probably the scribble they're maybe eight. Would you say $18 I think they are a that, like the I would spend the dollars on a good pen, a good myself, too, when you were talking Kim about the white tried

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

that? I haven't, but I bet it would pens. I don't know what they're called. They've got the

Joleen:

Oh, like a fountain pen, kind of like a fountain pen, like, a little bowl connected to the pen. Do you have that one? the pen, and then it somehow, I know, right? I can tell I'm try it. I don't have the white India ink, but I'll get some,

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

and I think Posca pins. Yeah, you supplies are sitting here. Yeah, I used, Oh, I love this. The the be as

Joleen:

Chris creamy, right? And a little bit it's that it's very them, or do you use look at your face. You're

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

like, Oh, I'm not a huge, huge stencil Black Friday sale. I do use stencils, but my favorite thing a while, but I love to use a Tyvek envelope yes to cut hand cut stencils that I've made that are fun to use.

Joleen:

Where one gets Tyvek? Where does one get a Tyvek

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

the post

Joleen:

office. In these like, what

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

stuff sometimes will come mailed, or Go to USPS and order topic envelopes.

Joleen:

Your secrets safe with us, right? Friends, we won't every single time it's my go to is a Restoration Hardware catalogs, you know, to use in my art projects. Like I want the how many people tell me that they ordered, they ordered the know, try first to get it from someone who's just going to yesterday, on my live, I so I was making a collage out of book old medicine jar, like, I think my dog, Augie, had like, some really wide opening. This will be great for glue, and I use it and, like, it's stupid and it makes a mess. But we don't get husband makes homemade granola, and it has a lot of honey in it. stinking honey in the bear. Oh. Uh, even though I really want

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

how we and I guess that's how all of container that I got a candle in, and I say, that stinking some it's just crazy.

Joleen:

Do you also, I also look at, I know you live in a tiny like, oh, that's a good that's a good box. You know, just feel do, you see

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

that, by my trust, that is a dang good

Joleen:

like, you have the language, like, it's really,

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

good bag. It's a good bag. I mean, I mean, that's to me, it's all kind of the same. But yes, you the younger like the Yeah, Gen Zers, journaling is a huge, huge gone through the scrapbooking phase. I just think we've all for it, but it's all the same, really, right?

Joleen:

Well, and my so my friend Suzanne early, who is the show. And Strawberry Moon magazine is a magazine for art see you published in this magazine. You're one of my when it comes out, like when I say magazine, it isn't the kind beautifully made and beautifully bound and just scrumptious. But what's a junk journal, what's a visual journal, like, what are that has a binding that is your art journal, junk journal, too. Is like there's no wrong way to enter your relationship now we are kind of this. And one of the things that I definitely taking, like, a really long time, and I end up digging categories in my folders of people with feet, people without might need a little person, you know, you can put him on a think it's important to say that collage doesn't have to be like it.

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

Yeah, I follow several collage artists don't have the, I don't have the capacity for that. I don't think at it, and I love to watch them do it, but that just my my hands just like, envy it in a way, like, I wish I could do that

Joleen:

you happen to see it was a post I did a million years what's How big is a plywood sheet? Is that four by six, four Darren. So I did Charlie a four by eight collage. Of comic book

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

images. And, no, I have not seen that

Joleen:

I had a little bit of insanity, and I literally, oh, even cut some. And it was such a huge project, and I'm so ashamed in my workshop, because I haven't built a frame for it. So it sometimes and I'm like, Oh my gosh. Like, list is awesome, and have half built bridges like this, where you're just

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

like, my gosh, they're okay, great. journals that I've never I've just abandoned and left, you started a project and then, you know, filled it with really good

Joleen:

too I don't, and I don't know, I don't know what that is, that, you know, as a content creator, like, there are, I feel And I also, after doing it for a few years now, have come to more about my mental health and work life balance than they care running, you know, a business and have other commitments, and are really rooting for us are genuinely rooting for us,

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

absolutely. And if they aren't, they're not to get rid of those people, you know, whether you block them or

Joleen:

right? Exactly. But I don't think that the folks who content, I think that they totally understand and are just they're kind of the same people. So yes,

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

they are. They're the same people. say I'm going to do something, and I make my mind that I'm about. Yes, I have been doing that for four years. Every to that that's just one of those things in my mind that I'm gonna mother, reads it

Joleen:

or or I love your newsletter, you know,

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

I always put that out. And that's And so I'm, I'm very hard on myself when it comes to some

Joleen:

can people find your newsletter? Because it is so things. I I think it's awesome. So tell folks where they can while you're doing that, let me just say in the comments, people they get to your newsletter? So it's

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

anywhere on my socials you can get to. I hate, I hate pop ups, and I've done this website myself, and if can't figure out how to take it off, but there's a pop up. If

Joleen:

Awesome. I will make sure to link it in our show much time left. I do have to just take pause and tell folks pages for 2025 done, save one. We only have one left to do, and little about 11 months from now, and we're just like putting on that one. But other than that, all of them are up and ready. people come to the farm, and they pick from a list of my weekend of eco dying and cyanotype printing. So I'm very

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

I must try to come to one of your

Joleen:

oh my gosh, I cannot wait. We we did the Eco dyeing it so much. And you just get such different results that get to the other activities. And so they were like, Let's do a there's a Yo, I'm doing two yoga retreats. And, I mean, there's it's all yoga related content based on my favorite book called and the retreat is centered around that. We have one more blue ribbon winning embroidery artist, like she has things like are talking about the possibility of an embroidery resin retreat. So like, if you see on Tiktok, like the people people how to do that. And then, while they're here, we'll also you can get your pieces out, and then you can do a sculpture with collages, either on a lazy susan or in a beverage tray that I know, so cool, I know, right? So exciting, so exciting

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

with that. I've never, I've never

Joleen:

have but just, I mean, not in the Tumblr way, like, I I mean, I've dabbled in all the things, right? So,

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

so it's kind of like I've done the

Joleen:

so I've done, I've done the resin and the jewelry, and knows what she's doing. Her name is Paige. Um, we've worked with that's what's going on at Big Raven farm in 2025 I know, table. So Kim, I don't know if you saw me yesterday. I did. I cutter. Oh, do you know what that is? So, like, like, when, perfect, like, you know, two by threes. So the the print shop something this thick, and it's got, like, it's, I feel like a turn the key at the same time, you know, 123, turn. It's like

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

Yeah, that's totally true, but you

Joleen:

guillotine doesn't come down until you push both buttons a book, like just one go, just funk, and the whole thing comes and that I cool. Well, I've been wanting one for a really long expensive. And so I was like, thinking to myself, I was like, that I'm wishing ill on people's businesses. Let me rephrase like day, no joke, on Facebook marketplace, a print shop in paper cutters. So in it, I did. So instead of 1000s and 1000s of cash. Sorry, people, maybe I shouldn't say that loud, been even know how much was in there. And I was like, did? I didn't

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

that, yeah, and see, that's what I deal. I I

Joleen:

was so excited, and my nephews and my, I think my son it's heavy. Oh, but it's just it's so satisfying, and because scary, it's a little scary.

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

Yes, the face

Joleen:

you're making is appropriate, because it just it, and you can bring, like, because it's, it's got, like, a little held real tight while the guillotine comes down. And know it's so cool. I'm clearly very excited.

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

The things that we get excited

Joleen:

know someone else's garbage and paper cutters and good box and a good box, right, exactly? Well, I cannot thank before we say goodbye, something that we do on every episode is I you these same questions, and you can elaborate right. Warming favorite word?

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

Oh, my goodness.

Joleen:

And it could be today. It could even be this week.

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

Stunning. Stunning. A lot this week.

Joleen:

Oh my gosh, I love that word. I'm gonna stunning. It's

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

it's fun to say stem Yes,

Joleen:

and I feel like it's one of those words that it's a it's

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

That's just the first one that popped

Joleen:

love it. So then, do you have a least favorite word?

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

Oh, I probably shouldn't say that on

Joleen:

I hear, yeah, I think I might go, oh,

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

I don't know. I don't know. Offhand southern accent, but like, there's something about one that

Joleen:

our age too, right? Yeah, Gen Xers, I don't I think and I think that we carried it right into midlife. I totally of sandwich? So there

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

was this little restaurant that I

Joleen:

First of all, a little crunchy and. Soft, I guess, yes,

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

the Bellini that little crunch with Literally,

Joleen:

just last week, I was talking with my guest, Frankie, used to own an art gallery with a couple of friends, and it was anyway, they made a turkey cranberry, but they also put Like, it was delicious.

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

It was elevates it, yeah, it doesn't.

Joleen:

I know a little bit of crunch will, like, just totally, talking about that last week, and I know you didn't see that and you might have different ones than we do. So what is the

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

You're going to think this is crazy.

Joleen:

I don't farm, so I

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

know in my mind that they're not I am

Joleen:

I agree with you. I live on a farm, and I've been told I disagree, I don't want this to be like my, oh, yeah. I live on with this. Hate them. I hate rodents. Why? So do I they don't it's like, my my son, who's getting a box of rocks for Heebie, Jeebie, but other creepy crawlies, he's, like, wildly you, just the fact that you get to live, breathe, dance, enjoy

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

For me, it's oh gosh. I don't know. It's time calling myself an artist. I'll just say that like I have a tells me that you know. But I think we all have creativity in computer is creative. You know, music, all of the different arts life. I mean, like it's, I cannot imagine not being able to giving to me.

Joleen:

I agree with you, and I feel like my word about it is, like I'm driving the bus necessarily, like I am propelled just a little bit of progress. Don't feel like complete days,

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

agreed, agreed. And you, when you get in to me,

Joleen:

Oh, definitely, definitely, like, I've never right? Maybe you have, but I've certainly, I can get it when I

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

but you probably do that doing, if doing connotation, but you know, there's a flow involved when you

Joleen:

and I'm kind of like you, so you like when you shared like, I don't skip, I don't miss, I don't like, I'm very know, some things like, Yeah, I do. I do think so. I think that hard on myself and and I don't know why my parents weren't hard but I do think that, you know, here as an empty nester, as a on myself than I ever have been before me, too. I know right to

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

Oh, I love a rain. So my little, my roof. There's nothing like that, and then a crackling fire, like

Joleen:

So nature inspired, oh, 100% yep, I so we have a tin wind time and then we also have some other like, smaller wind raining, and if there's a little wind, you can hear the rain and never knew that baritone wind chimes were a thing until I coolest sound ever. Mm, hmm, is there then a sound that you

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

I mean, the typical, like, first thing think

Joleen:

that's it. That's a Gen Xer response. Because I bet you

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

have a clue, right?

Joleen:

Yeah, I am. I saw a movie once where, okay, this is, was chewing on tin foil and, oh, oh, I don't know why they were doing that, and I don't remember take her. I know it was horrific. If anybody knows what think about sounds I hate. I always think about, like, that other than your own? And I know that, you know you have a full

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

I've always said that if I had to do much fun I love and I think that's why I love the the whole class, and I had great art teachers as a telemetry student, just think that would be the ultimate fun career. You're not create. I just think is so fun. I love when my when my grandkids

Joleen:

That's so exciting. I think that, have you seen there students work, and some of them have been doing really intricate

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

learn that. I want that class. I

Joleen:

would like to sign up for that class. And, like, just like where I've been with bookboard the last couple of all these other things. So I just love the idea of the range I'm getting a I'm getting that like in being an art educator know my My Education in Instructional Design and stayed where I'm called, like, in an artist direction, instead

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

yeah,

Joleen:

sucks that we have to do, right? Is there a profession

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

So I work for a health organization. higher education. But I could never work in higher education.

Joleen:

okay, see, yes, we've

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

got more to talk about so, but I the health field like hands on sport. No, no, no, no, no, no. I

Joleen:

you is it kind of because you know too much. I

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

have never, it's just never been would not, right? No, no. I have family members that are of like, yep,

Joleen:

that's not your again, not your lane, right? Not your independent work, right? Like, I do much. I'm a I'm a of a blessing and a curse. I think you and I have this in it's a curse sometimes, because almost everything I see or do and work on what I've already built, instead of always trying

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

right? Yes, whatever that is, right.

Joleen:

right. Okay. So finally, then what brings you of all the

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

Oh, my goodness, I'm an experienced experiencing new things. I love travel. I love seeing new care about. So probably just something new, like I and I'm, I'm going on a trip next week, and I'm so excited to get to younger, but he's never been and just that experience. I love

Joleen:

that's it, that's it, right? That's it, that's the a little bit about experiences with my family when we have all those moments that you just want to savor and like keep them definitely the people wrapped up in the experiences. And I've Raven farm and they leave and they say that they feel seen and I'm on top of the world forever and just so grateful for The that

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

is such a gift. So, yeah, that you have

Joleen:

It's it's great. I mean, I don't think it would be sane we have the kind of property that, you know, we have to have learned so much about ourselves and how much we love that's awesome. And I didn't know that, Kim, I did not know social medias. I love what you do. I love that we have people you what they told me. And then I really think you are inspiring talk to me because you are definitely seen and appreciated, much, of course, my absolute pleasure. Time goes so fast, and much. Exciting news for again, if you follow um. Royce hunt of She's going to be with me next week the 18th.

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

I just Oh my gosh. I just opened a amazing. She is

Joleen:

amazing. Like, have you like, like, she is like, I mean, here next week, the 18th, and I hope you will join us. So

Kim DeShazo, HTCC guest:

Thank you. You bet. Bye, everybody.

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